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Offline jharsh

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another ram question.
« on: July 13, 2004, 07:00:07 PM »
I have a choice to make. I have narrowed my choice of ram down to two types.

Corsair pc3200 1gb(2x512mb) cas:2-2-2-6
Corsair pc3200 1gb(2x512mb) cas:2-3-3-6

The 2-2-2 stuff costs nearly $100 more so I'm leaning heavy toward the 2-3-3 but my question is would I see any real increase in speed. I'm running 2-2-2-6 now but it's only 512mb (and I NEED 1GB )).


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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2004, 03:05:35 AM »
You really would be able to tell the difference in my opinion.
Mediocre people are always at their best.

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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2004, 10:27:12 AM »
I think it would only show under really heavy loads.  But I can't say that if it did show that it would be a $100 difference.

My budger mindedness says that it's not worth the difference.

But that is my $.015.  ;)
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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2004, 02:50:50 PM »
If you have 512 at 2-2-2-5 will bench mark faster But 1 gig at 2-3-3-7 the computer will run faster and you will see the difference. What ever you do 1 gig at the slower timings will improve your speed.
I run 4 banks of 512 hyper x at 2-3-3-7 and is faster than when I run 2 banks at 2-2-2-5 I can see the differance in the way the computer runs. But it will bench mark in 3dmark faster.
in the real world seeing the computer run fast is better. Go with 1 gig even if the timing is slower.


http://www.pcguide.com/ref/ram/timing.htm

[Edited on 7-14-2004 by Boomslang]

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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2004, 05:39:54 PM »
So the question is still....

Is the faster RAM worth the extra $100?
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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2004, 07:35:12 PM »
Memory Speed and the System Cache

It is important to remember that the use of large, efficient primary and secondary caches in modern PCs means that most requests for instructions or data by the processor are satisfied from cache and not the system memory. While increasing the speed of memory definitely has a positive performance impact, often that improvement is masked by the fact that typically, only 5-10% of all memory requests actually result in memory accesses. This means that using memory that is 50% faster than an older kind will only result in a system-level performance gain of 2.5-5%. This phenomenon is the main reason why SDRAM, despite being much faster than its predecessors, has not revolutionized the PC, only evolved it.

You can not see 5%... No faster ram is not worth it. More ram yes

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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2004, 08:20:03 PM »
Like I said, you won't notice a difference.
Mediocre people are always at their best.

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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2004, 10:34:41 AM »
Yepper.  Save the money and buy 2 games!
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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2004, 02:03:30 PM »
But which games.....

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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2004, 05:26:36 PM »
Ummm, Q*bert and Krazy Klimber? :D
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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2004, 08:13:31 PM »
wow Q*bert......we should play that at LAN~303

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another ram question.
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2004, 09:03:36 AM »
I vote for Ballblazer :lol . To make it more fun I vote for the c64 version (and I could bring the c64). :8o:

My ram purchase will have to wait another week as my laptop died ;(: and I had to buy a replacement. Getting an ibm T21 800mhz p3. Not a bad way to spend $400 (should arive on the 17th :rolling ).:

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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2004, 10:07:39 AM »
Where, o where, did you pick that up?
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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2004, 12:01:39 PM »
o heck if we go C64 i vote the classic cartridge game radar rat race

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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2004, 12:01:48 PM »
I had  that game on my C64
glad to see someone out there with taste.
(BallBaver) and yes Radar Rat Race too.

[Edited on 7-16-2004 by [303]JollyRoger]
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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2004, 02:50:45 PM »
Quote

Where, o where, did you pick that up?


Ebay. I have had good luck with laptops there. The seller I got mine from has a perfect record for selling computers (inc laptops)

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« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2004, 12:01:54 PM »
Might have to look into that further once my funding loosens up a bit.
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another ram question.
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2004, 01:41:37 AM »
posting from my new laptop.

A few minor problems but nothing $40 can't fix. I'm also going to have to replace the hdd as it sounds bad to me (although it works and has no bad sectors). What I like most about the t21 is it has a light for the keyboard. Works well! can't wait to get downtown now (all thos ap's just waiting :evil )

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« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2004, 02:09:42 AM »
what are you going to do with the dead one?
I collect old and dead laptops.
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« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2004, 05:35:58 PM »
most likely part it out and sell it. The motherboard is the only bad part.

I am thinking about keeping it long enough to get a new board (about $65)

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« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2004, 06:09:49 PM »
well let me know, i'll settle a price with you for it .
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