The importance of jumpers!!!!!!

[Wolverine of Ambush!]

I recently upgraded to an Asus A7V33 motherboard with 512mb of PC2700. I also aquired Windows XP Pro at the last Ambush hosted Game day. IT WAS AWESOME if you didn't go  :hotbouns: ... But anyway, I have had non stop issues since upgrading. My machine has locked up, automatically shut down, gave blue screens with Stop errors, Games stopping, and Device driver issues.  I wasn't really able to narrow it down. Very frustrating! :cry:

I stumbled on a Motherboard compatibility reference on Mushkin (Ram manufacturer) website. They reference that Asus has the Jumper 1 and Jumper 2 defaulted to the wrong configuration according to the JEDEC guidelines. Defaulted, JP1 should be jumped 2-3, JP2 should be jumped 1-2.   When I bought the motherboard, I assumed (shouldn't have) that the board had all jumpers defaulted and I didn't need to do anything. Well, after checking my system yesterday, in the hopes of fixing a possible RAM issue, I found something. My JP1 and JP2 were NOT at the default setting. They were both jumped to 2-3 . Which meant WAY TOO MUCH voltage was being sent to my ram. COnsidering the fact my ram is OEM, this wasn't good . It could also explain why I have been having problems. My board was overclocking my ram.  So I did the suggested configuration from MUSHKIN.... didn't work.. TONS MORE crashes.. immediately.. Heck!  It took 3 times of rebooting before I could get to my desktop.  I decided to try the default setting from the manual on my motherboard from Asus.. Low and behold...stability.. i played last night for about 4-5 hours . :beer: Which by the way, I would like to thank Spade, Morpheus, Lab_Rat, and Opie Silver who ALL played a part in my testing last night. The sacrifices you made last night when playing and using gamevoice, will be noted.

NO crashes except for one.. but I had UnrealED 2.0 (it took 34% of my cpu alone), a hidden UT session running and then I opened another because I didn't see the first.. But my machine didn't turn off, it just slowed WAY DOWN. But, that was a plus, it usually just shut off. I was able to shut everything down and restart myself.     I have received a "device driver error" but I think maybe that has something to do with all the crashes I have had. (possibly) So I think I am going to do a FRESH install of everything.. fdisk it and all..  

Bottom Line..

1):shame:Don't assume your jumpers are defaulted, always check them JUST TO MAKE SURE.. You don't know if the place you bought it from used it as a test (), or the manufacturers made a mistake when the jumpers were placed.

2) Jumpers can make a HUGE problem if incorrectly jumped.

3) kicking the pc doesn't help

4) Did I say jumpers can make a HUGE difference?


Tally Ho! Silverhawks!

[Morpheus]

I'm really glad that I have always checked jumpers and BIOS setting first thing when I start a new system.  It's just a good habit.

[ZWarrior]

Been bit by that too many times before.  Wish I had remembered to tell you to check that tho.  Would have saved you a ton of time.

Who's Lab_Rat?

[Wolverine of Ambush!]

Lab_Rat is Matt Lehmer....aka.. The Gladiator.....

He wanted to play and figured since he had not played for a while he would consider himself a LAB RAT. We throw him into our game and he scurries everywhere and gets killed all the time.. ROFLOL

[ZWarrior]

Wouldn't Fresh_Meat be a better name?  

[Wolverine of Ambush!]

I would have to agree with that.. LOL

He has been working on his pc...upgrading the OS and being married...  

i'll ask him to change his name...lol

[Boomslang]

If you would have gotten quality ram you would have never had the problem to begin with, so it was good thing that you didn't other wise you wouldn't have found the jumper problem.:lol

[Wolverine of Ambush!]

You are probably correct.  I have been thinking of getting some though..

[Boomslang]

I have one for you I got PC2700 cas 2,2,2,5. when I bench mark my ram it falls way short = to PC2100. I have to pull it out a see what they sent me. turn bios settings to turbo no help:eek:

[ZWarrior]

Still the stuff from BZBoyz huh?

[Boomslang]

No, O/Csystems.com. My bios was not set right I'm now = to PC3200, running ram at 355mhz instead of 266mhz.The pc2700 I got from them will run at 384mhz(pretested)

just ran 3dmark of 10585  only thing o/c is the ram by 22mhz and  turbo enabled:clap::hotbouns::compute::beer:

pc2700 @ 266mhz 3dmark 9832

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[Wolverine of Ambush!]

To the theme of 'If I only had a brain" from the wizard of OZ.

"If I only had the cash!"     lol

[Edited on 12-20-2002 by Wolverine of Ambush!]