Author Topic: Airline Users to be rated for risk (Read 5719 times)

ZWarrior · « **on:** January 13, 2004, 08:12:15 AM »

Just read this article:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/12/terror/main592564.shtml

This is VERY disturbing. I am VERY uncomfortable with the federal government knowing all this about me and rating me as a risk to the aircraft. I realize that they are hoping to make the aircraft safer to fly on, but I am also concerned with the risk of abuse.

Boomslang · « **Reply #1 on:** January 13, 2004, 08:29:20 AM »

walk:lol:

ZWarrior · « **Reply #2 on:** January 13, 2004, 09:15:05 AM »

As long as you do as well!

Mostly, I don't like the invasion of my privacy.

Morpheus · « **Reply #3 on:** January 13, 2004, 09:43:25 AM »

Security always comes at the price of personal rights. It's a question of where the acceptable balance is, unfortunately recent events have changed the acceptable balance, and we are still trying to find where it should land. No easy answers without a benevolent dictator...oh well guess we will have to wait for that.

ZWarrior · « **Reply #4 on:** January 13, 2004, 11:23:34 AM »

As a professional in the IT industry who has to deal with security each day, I err on the side of legitimate personal freedom.

I would rather let my users get things done than lock them down and get nothing down.

Having lived in other countries and seen what the world was like for those with less freedom, I will take the freedom and deny the oversight. I want to be safe, but not at the cost of my liberties. those were paid for at a high cost.

JollyRoger · « **Reply #5 on:** January 13, 2004, 12:34:25 PM »

"BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING"
Anybody remeber that line? many people still today look at George Orwell as being a paranoid person but there are many attributes about that book that are true today. here is another qute "The good of the many out way the good of the few or the one" Logically speakin that is true but when my freedoms and liberties are lost because of that then I might as well live in socialism... I have several traffic violations, guess what That automatically puts me at yellow. What about a Gun collector, Red?
Iknow thats was a little brash but if the goverment wants to get stupid I can play the same game.

[Edited on 1-13-2004 by [303]JollyRoger]

Boomslang · « **Reply #6 on:** January 13, 2004, 03:25:27 PM »

Anyone see enemy of the state?
Hold your watch out and they will tell you what time it is. The only freedom we have is what the government allows us to have. We as a nation have so far away form the Constitution that there should have been a tea party a long time ago.

n1c · « **Reply #7 on:** January 13, 2004, 06:20:49 PM »

True, True! First they take all of the guns away from people that will not abuse them and then they start taking all of the other rights away! How will we be able to rise up against the government if all we have are sticks and stones?

This country is defiantly getting less free every day... even more so since 9-11!!!!

I say the fine line has been past a long time ago and everyone is blind to it because they don’t want to believe its happening!!!!

There is no other place in the world I would like to be, but it is getting to the point where I think I’m going to move to Canada!!!

JollyRoger · « **Reply #8 on:** January 13, 2004, 07:35:19 PM »

CANADA
!!!!!!!!!!!!?

[Edited on 1-14-2004 by [303]JollyRoger]

n1c · « **Reply #9 on:** January 13, 2004, 07:37:27 PM »

I love it up there!!!:D

snauzberries · « **Reply #10 on:** January 13, 2004, 10:26:00 PM »

Hey mabey ambush should do somthing like that...........Idiocy amoung lan-partys
must have a proper backround check to make sure and contestents will be coded like so:

Red-*SMACK*you are too dumb to play

yellow-noob

green- have a blast fragging

opiesilver · « **Reply #11 on:** January 13, 2004, 10:45:58 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by [303]JollyRoger
"BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING"
Anybody remeber that line? many people still today look at George Orwell as being a paranoid person but there are many attributes about that book that are true today. here is another qute "The good of the many out way the good of the few or the one" Logically speakin that is true but when my freedoms and liberties are lost because of that then I might as well live in socialism... I have several traffic violations, guess what That automatically puts me at yellow. What about a Gun collector, Red?
Iknow thats was a little brash but if the goverment wants to get stupid I can play the same game.

[Edited on 1-13-2004 by [303]JollyRoger]

Never fight stupidity with more stupidity. It doesn't accomplish anything.

opiesilver · « **Reply #12 on:** January 13, 2004, 10:48:03 PM »

I quit flying. I don't like the hassle of the airport. I drive everywhere.

JollyRoger · « **Reply #13 on:** January 14, 2004, 12:25:06 AM »

"Breaker, Breaker....this is Jolly Roger. Are there any smokeys up ahead?

opiesilver · « **Reply #14 on:** January 14, 2004, 01:23:15 AM »

I use the force....aka....cruise control. That is I usually use it. Well, I do use it if I'm not in a hurry to get to ZW's house or a LAN party. During those times my car grows wings. It probably doesn't hurt that my car looks like a police cruiser.

ZWarrior · « **Reply #15 on:** January 14, 2004, 08:14:19 AM »

If there were wings on that thing, IT WOULD FLY!

JollyRoger · « **Reply #16 on:** January 14, 2004, 11:52:16 AM »

Wow he drives that fast!
Back on subject a buddie of mine was saying that with this new program the next stage of it "might" involve airline companies not selling tickets to Yellows or Reds that you "Might" have to get permission from TSA. granted this was just something he had heard or seen but at the rate we going with this its is plausable. Lets chew on that in our minds, Having to ask permission to travel.

ZWarrior · « **Reply #17 on:** January 14, 2004, 12:16:50 PM »

"Comrade, may I see your papers?"
"License and registration please?"

Hmmm...

Boomslang · « **Reply #18 on:** January 14, 2004, 02:29:07 PM »

I forgot them. What do you meen come with you!

JollyRoger · « **Reply #19 on:** January 14, 2004, 03:47:52 PM »

You suddenly find your self looking down a long dark barrel. A the end you see a small glimmer from the tip of a 5.56x45mm NATO round.

*Click*

You now wish you could've snagged a set of boxers just before they confiscated your luggege.

Morpheus · « **Reply #20 on:** January 14, 2004, 04:15:39 PM »

permission to travel on a public airline....not the same as permission to travel. You can still travel on a private airplane or private vehicle

total freedom creates anarchy and chaos...for example I want the freedom to take a dump anywhere I want to...the truth is that your freedom ends when it negatively affects the freedom of others.

You have to have a drivers license to drive. Why? As a preemptive measure to increase the safety of society. If you have been caught driving drunk, you are in a higher risk group (the more occurences the greater the punishment) or perhaps a different color. Eventually you won't be allowed to drive if you continue to exercise your freedom to drink and drive.

The TSO database is simply a preemptive measure to increase the safety of society...doesn't even go so far as to not allow you to travel...just takes you longer to get on the plane since you may have to go through closer security screening.

This is not an infringement of your rights. You don't have the right to carry a fire arm onto a public airplane. We are just going to make certain that you don't have one, especially if based upon statistical data you are more likely to have one than the next guy.

Now the concern should be what data can be used to determine the risk color, and can it be used for other purposes other than how much security you have to go through. The other question would the risk color and this system actually produce results? Would it make it safer to fly?

snauzberries · « **Reply #21 on:** January 14, 2004, 04:59:49 PM »

Ahh yes we now welcome the wise and great morphus

ZWarrior · « **Reply #22 on:** January 15, 2004, 04:05:10 PM »

hmm, this is to make it so that those more prone to caring a firearm don't get on a plane.

But isn't that what the random body searches and metal detectors for?

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